Tsunami wrote:Thanks Danny, although im working a one man door covering 3 entrances/exits i was able to give a guesstimate head count of 40, ive since found out the maximum capacity of 150 although its not set in stone, he did have me on the defensive really from the off but im not letting that happen again, that was the first time a copper has caught me with my pants down while wtd's
Tsunami wrote:Yes thankyou i was angry for not knowing and not exactly composed while writing i agree i should have known, the 1 man door thing though is the venues decision,the bosses and my choice as i need the work simply put, believe it or not, it is possible to cover the 3 entrances if standing between the 2 out front walking to and from while monitering the dead end road which leads out to the back entrance, most people will come and leave via the front, the place is quite unlikely to ever reach full capacity typical average night peaks at 30 - 40, im more concerned with underagers and keeping out the wronguns, only had to bar 3 people since Xmas for minor misbehaviour, i would like to know ive got backing from old bill if needed, they were brilliant at my previous venue which was a hellhole and had everyones respect being old school and a good laugh, the copper last night though did nothing to make me feel like we were on good terms and should be trying to build good relations considering i am on my own,his colleague did seem more approachable though but i have heard round this area that old bill tend to stand back when ds are up against it..
if by the others you meant me para then I still stand by my questions in my post. Why would the police officer need badge number andparajack wrote::shock: The copper is doing his job,he has every right to ask you such Q,whats the big deal?and why are you working a one man door with 3 entrances exits?how on earth can you control capacity? i would have challenged you too,not to mention the venue mngt....YOU should have known the capacity,and GUESTIMATE.....???? what use would that be if you were overcapacity?
No mate,you appear to me to be defensive about something routine,and those posting in support of your original post need in my view to revist their thinking....as do you
maybe its me being stupid but still can't see why its relevant to the police when the first aid cert runs out.Purple wrote:I saw this one earlier, but decided it was a none-event – this now seems to be changing, so here's my sixpence worth.
The Copper is having a nose, he want's to know how clued up the DS are on his patch – who he can trust to be on the ball etc.
Name – rank – serial number …..... what's to protest about that ?
First Aid cert – well – now he knows you have one, its date is relavant, so again – straight question.
How many in – over what capacity …... you are the one on the door – it's not an unreasonable question, and on that one point, yes, you fell.
Other doors by your company on that patch ? - not your responsibility to know – give him the companies contact details and tell him to ask them.
That Coppers approach was intimidating and probing – you are DS – treat him accordingly – tell him what he has a right to know – and block or fend off the rest.
He was testing you – judging you – maybe part of his job, maybe not – but in his place i'd do the same ….. “know your team”.
I'm guessing you know what to improve on now, so let's move on to the next time ….. get his name, get to know the man – work “with” him. If he's a professional, that's what he wants. He's relying on you to take care of business before he has to get involved – same as you will be relying on him to take care of business “if” it happens.
It's all about mutual trust – that's why he was probing you.
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